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 I am writing in direct response to William
          Swann's column about John McCain's "good idea", which
          appears on January 23.  I have no beef with Mr. Swann personally
          or otherwise, and I don't want to dissuade him from writing further
          for Politicalusa.com. However, his viewpoint encapsulates the
          conventional wisdom on fiscal policy matters perfectly, and I disagree
          with this mindset so thoroughly that I feel compelled to address
          Swann's arguments point-by-point. (Excerpts from Mr. Swann's columns
          are italicized.) Swann begins by saying, "We either head
          into the future dramatically slashing taxes, or ramping up spending.
          The frightening possibility this year is that we'll try to do both.
          What goes unrecognized is the third option, (paying off the
          debt)." I don’t know what else Mr. Swann would want,
          because for the past three years both political parties have agreed by
          default to make debt reduction their top priority. The federal
          government has a $237 billion surplus for the fiscal year that just
          ended, and we'll supposed to have a $260 billion surplus in 10 months.
          At this point, we're very much on track on paying off the national
          debt in about 12 years. How do you make funds available to the system
          ten, twenty, or thirty years from now?  You pay down the debt. 
          A lean government approaches the coming demographic crisis with an
          ability to borrow money.  An already bloated government doesn't.
          The United States has a debt/GNP ratio of about 57%, which is one of
          the lowest in the industrialized world. That percentage rate will only
          decline further in the next decade. We'll have the ability to increase
          our debt burden to cover future retirees no matter what. But more importantly, we won't have to rely on
          increasing our debt burden if we continue to grow our economy, and
          that requires tax cuts that give individuals and institutions the
          proper incentives to develop and prosper. That only can come from tax
          cuts, not debt reduction. And how do you keep a roaring economy going? 
          Dramatic debt reduction lowers interest rates for everyone. 
          People's mortgage rates, car loans, credit card payments all go down. 
          Businesses can borrow money cheaper. It's like a tax cut with a
          wonderful extra silver lining. No it's not, because there is no
          historical link between debt levels and interest rates. Interest rates
          are determined by inflationary expectations, what the Federal Reserve
          does, and of course by a loan's inherent risk. Debt levels have little
          to do with it. Otherwise, how could one explain why interest rates
          were so low after World War II, when our debt/GNP ratio was about
          130%? Interest rates were much lower then than now. But they've forgotten the bigger idea ... the
          one that smashes the broken records both parties carry around on
          economic policy, and quite possibly gives us the keys to a bright
          future. By what standard will we measure success? Will we somehow
          be blessed if our national debt goes down to a certain point, and
          cursed if we don't? If I sound like a Marxist when I say the
          following, so be it: it is the ruling establishment in this country
          that focuses on debt reduction above other priorities. This is because
          those with a hold on wealth and power wants to see the economy grow,
          but at a steady and moderate pace so their own interests are not
          jeopardized by competition. This viewpoint is disseminated throughout
          society, and it does appeal to certain sensibilities of the human
          character. Both Bill Clinton and John McCain have tapped into the
          notion of debt reduction as a way of appealing to a broad segment of
          moderate voters. But there has to be a counterbalance to such policy
          prescriptions; otherwise, we are selling our potential short.
          Investments or tax cuts by the government can create a larger return
          in the future than merely paying down the debt for its own sake. If I were never to go into debt, I would never be
          able to buy a house or a car. Such thinking is even more outlandish
          for a government, which has a revenue source far more stable than most
          individuals. I have not even addressed the fact that the national debt is what maintains our national currency. If we were to eliminate the entire national debt, we would have to take every single dollar out of circulation. But that's for another time. I do not mean to be strident with Mr. Swann: I just want him to see that not only are his concerns being addressed, but to a point of excess. © Scott D. Gillette, 2001 
 Mr. Swann Responds: Thank you for the detailed response, and for
          furthering what I take to be a very basic discussion of economic and
          fiscal policy that will probably be fundamental to our future. I'd like to respond to a few of your comments. First, you present what I think is by far the
          prevailing view, now -- that surplus projections have escalated so
          dramatically that we needn't be concerned about the debt ... that we
          can afford tax cuts, and perhaps new spending, while still paying off
          significant portions of the debt. I think almost all politicians on both sides work
          from this assumption.  It's
          constantly reinforced by the media, and I suspect most people accept
          it as fact. As one example, I would point to President
          Clinton's comments in the waning days of his administration, crediting
          his administration with the largest debt payments in history. It isn't surprising to me to find that there's
          something fishy in these numbers. 
          Take a look at federal debt figures, which are tracked and
          reported to the penny at the web site The Public Debt Online (http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/opd/opdpenny.htm). Here are a few of their figures, which they draw
          from the Bureau of the Public Debt: 
 Our current debt (as of yesterday), is 5.74
          trillion.  It's increased
          by about 30 billion over the last two months, by 65 billion over the
          last year, by 80 billion over the last two years, and over 200 billion
          over the last three years. These were of course the latter years of one of
          the greatest periods of economic expansion in our nation's history. 
          And it appears we made no payments on the debt,
          and actually allowed it to gradually rise. Take a closer look, too, at the fiscal
          projections that are being widely reported in the media. Just a few days ago, the Congressional Budget
          Office increased it's ten-year surplus projection by a trillion
          dollars, to 5.6 trillion. What's widely misunderstood is that the CBO is
          required to make certain unrealistic assumptions when calculating
          these figures.  Among
          other things, they're required to assume that spending caps enacted by
          law in 1990 will be followed. Congress has already used "emergency
          designations" in each of the last two years to violate the caps.  They are essentially dead in the water, politically. 
          Nobody follows them, or intends to follow them.  The CBO also assumes that productivity will
          continue to increase at a rate similar to the 2.5% it has been
          increasing over the last 5 years, and not at rates closer to
          historical averages (1.6% per year over the past quarter-century). If that's a bad assumption, the projections
          collapse and even lapse into new deficits. Factor this in with the overall fiscal picture. 
          Spending may very well grow at a greater rate than it has over
          the past three years, particularly if a prescription drug benefit is
          added to the Medicare program.  Even
          if it grows only at the  present
          rate, though, more than half of the projected non-Social Security
          surplus disappears (http://www.concordcoalition.org/federal_budget/001011issuebrief.htm). If Bush were to get all of his proposed tax cut,
          the rest would disappear too. And so, as always, we get no payments on the
          national debt.  That's my basic point. 
          There is really no constituency for paying the
          debt.  Democrats always
          want to spend more.  Republicans
          want to cut taxes.  Politicians
          always want to either give us more benefits through social programs or
          give us our money back. They don't want to pay old bills, and never will
          unless we insist. I think a reasonable, centrist policy could lead
          us very much in the right direction, both in terms of economic growth
          and managing the debt. Suppose, for example, we were to peg tax cuts to
          the achievement of specific debt reduction targets.  We could agree to give back an amount equal to whatever
          savings we achieve in debt-servicing payments.  So if we reduce the debt by enough to lower our
          yearly servicing payments by, say, 100 billion, in the following year
          we give back 100 billion in the form of a broad-based tax cut. That way, we lead with debt
          reduction, and follow with some sensible tax cuts that essentially
          distribute the benefits of our debt-reduction achievement. Meanwhile, reduction in debt probably does reduce
          overall interest rates, which helps spur the economy. Suppose we follow this policy for a period of,
          say, 5 years.  Continue
          until we've cut the debt at least in half, which would make it quite
          manageable, and at that point start giving more back in tax cuts
          and/or new spending. That's a reasonable, disciplined approached. It's what most of our families would do when faced with the combination of huge debts and income surpluses. We'd start by paying some of those old debts. See our new weekly Political USA feature: Who's In, Who's Out Today's featured
          columns: View expressed are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of Political USA. 
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